It's not listed on other sites.
Lyngsat used to update their listings when there were two independent confirmations of a station, Flysat might not be so careful
Then again, the link below suggests the radio station had been available on Hispasat almost two years ago.
Hispasat 4-5-6 30.0° W Radio Mars Frequency:11695 Polarization:V Symbol Rate:185 Fec:3/4
www.isatdb.com
I've written about Lyngsat and Flysat somewhere on this forum but because you're give me the opportunity, I repeat what I said then.I have tried to understand,over the years,the policy of posting the information that both sites receive from contributors.
As you know,we each have criteria to judge the value of the information we take from the net,of course from these satellite sites too.There are other such information sites,each has a specific profile,different from the other,but ultimately what matters is
the credibility of the information they post.If I judge from this point of view,then Lyngsat enjoys a credibility,I'll call it, of authority,because it is the oldest than FlySat and over the years he has proven that he does not want to disappoint the visitors who follow him.Plus,it's focused primarily on the same type of information since it came into being, more than twenty years ago,ie transponders with TV / radio and data,rarely.All infos posted there is a practical value for to those who want to know what transponders with TV programs have been activated.This is the public targeted in the first place,i.e. the ordinary consumer of television/radio programs.
And not dxers! I emphasize this very important aspect when judging both sites.From this point of view,the two sites,although each addresses the same public,paradoxically,in fact this audience is not the same.Which has consequences on how to select and post information on each site,but also
the way the owners of these sites accept the contributions they receive from different users.
From this last point of view,the policy of the two sites is much different:Lyngsat relies,more or less,on the same contributors,and checks information from two or other sources,then accepts and posts information for that consumer I was talking about above,even though it has been a long time before this information was confirmed.In order not to make mistakes,it is better to postpone posting the information received,even at the risk that other profile sites took it before.
While FlySat is much more flexible both in terms of information received and contributors.Perhaps from this point of view it should be more demanding, especially with regard to the latter.Many of them are dxers,who,why not say,even at the risk of being criticized,after making a name, no longer update the information they sent to FlySat.I can understand them,because a lot of transponders news has a short life(like any news),and FlySat, although accurate at the time of reception,posts them.
At this point,a problem arises which,paradoxically,even by contributors,which FlySat cannot solve alone,that is,the same information cannot be verified in each area for several reasons,first of all,technically and geographically.For example,even this transponder(11695 V) from 30.0W with 185-Ks rate symbol,having a different level signal in different areas,to which we add geographical conditions and unfavourable weather,is received or not by those who wish to lock it.Of course such a transponder with parameters that not every device can lock it,can induce the opinion that this does not even exist.From this reason,some contributors sent info to FlySat that this transponder has left the satellite.Which was wrong.From this reason,we have found over the last few years that FlySat posted the information according to the last contributor to confirm the existence of this transponder.Maybe that's why Lyngsat doesn't even post many transponders,like this one at 30.0 W.And there are many transponders of this kind that aren't shown on this site.
Although I am a contributor to FlySat,I do not want to be believed to be pro domo in what I said above,but I can say that those interested,especially the dxers,in the continuous changes of transponders on the satellites,must take this site into account.Actually, both Lyngsat and FlySat are alternative sources of information for each of us,whether we are a tv/radio programme consumer, or enthusiast.We are longer in the 90s when there were only Satcox and Lyngsat.Luckily,with a single click,we can visit them...
