How to watch B92 and Prva on 1.9E?

[Lexzie]

On f.e. Lyngsat you can see that on 12380 H two channels are present FTA, but without SID.
If I scan the frequency with TS Analyser they are not visible.

name	SID	hex	VPID	hex	APID	hex	PCR	hex	PMT	hex
RTS1 HD	461	1CD	2200	898	2201	899	2200	898	2202	89A
RTS2 HD	462	1CE	2207	89F	2208	8A0	2207	89F	2209	8A1
RTS3 HD	463	1CF	2214	8A6	2215	8A7	2214	8A6	2216	8A8
BN2	464	1D0	2221	8AD	2222	8AE	2221	8AD	2223	8AF
Pink	465	1D1	2228	8B4	2229	8B5	2228	8B4	2230	8B6
Al Jazeera	466	1D2	2235	8BB	2236	8BC	2235	8BB	2237	8BD
B92	467	1D3	2242	8C2	2243	8C3	2242	8C2	2244	8C4
Prva Srpska	468	1D4	2249	8C9	2250	8CA	2249	8C9	2251	8CB

If you look at the other stations' PID's you can imagine what the SID, PCR- and PMTPID probably are for these two stations (above in red).

First I added the two stations with Dreamset, but Dreamset cannot add the PMTPID.
So, I edited lamedb (in stop-mode init 4) in this:

01d3:00130000:000b:0001:1:0
B92
p:neosat,c:0008c2,c:0108c3,c:0308c2,c:1608c4,f:1
01d4:00130000:000b:0001:1:0
Prva Srpska TV
p:neosat,c:0008c9,c:0108ca,c:0308c9,c:1608cb,f:1

After init 3:
On both I have audio, but no video and the error message
Service not found!
(SID not found in PAT)

Any help in how to get these channels working?

Is there a tool which can read more data than TS Reader? It looks like the VPID shown on Lyngsat and Flysat is wrong?

Is the way I edit right? F.e. is c:16 right for adding the PMT-PID?

 

[MCelliotG]

You need to add the videotype flag, the channel is H.264
c:0008c2,c:0108c3,c:0308c2,c:050001,c:1608c4

 

[EnoSat]

On both I have audio, but no video and the error message
Service not found!
(SID not found in PAT)

Any help in how to get these channels working?

Is there a tool which can read more data than TS Reader? It looks like the VPID shown on Lyngsat and Flysat is wrong?

Is the way I edit right? F.e. is c:16 right for adding the PMT-PID?

f:1 disables the SDT check (program name) but the SID in the PAT (program id) will still be verified, it is better to use f:4 (or a combination of f:1 + f:4),
further as MCeliotG wrote, you need to set the H264 flag,
the parameter c:16 is defined according to the image used (e.g. OpenPLi has PMT as 16 , OpenATV has PMT as 19) - but I have not seen in any image that it actually reads if the f parameter is used
Better to use TransEdit to display unused pids in PAT/SDT
etc.

 

[Lexzie]

Thank you all for the information, it works.




@EnoSat with TransEdit I saw the video- and audioPID's but I could not find other SID's.
But I am wondering if it would have mattered if I used other PID's, as long as they are not used allready.

 

[EnoSat]

SIDs are not broadcast for these two programs in PAT. It is possible to use anything that is not already used.

 

[Lexzie]

These two SIDs seemed most logic to me.

 

[EnoSat]

if you look at the old lists they were used just for these two programs

 

[Lexzie]

Same thing on Astra 3B, 11651 H?

I added the services with no SID, but the audio is AAC, not AC3.
How do I set the APID for AAC Audio?


I have done this:



In lamedb as example:

125f:00eb0000:000b:0003:2:0
Radio Emaus
p:Grupa RMF,c:04125d,f:4

 

[EnoSat]

c:04 = AC3 pid , try c:12 = AAC-HE or c:14 = AAC
c:12125d or c:14125d
in some images it was still used c:10 = AudioPID + c:11 = AudioType
c:10125d,c:110004

 

[Lexzie]

Thanks, it works with c:14
But after reading the settings and writing them back the AACPID is gone even with f:4 or f:4c
(Untouched by SDT, Locked and Use PIDs).

How do I prevent the SIDs to be overwritten?

 

[EnoSat]

Untouched SDT + Lock PID = f:5
The SID must be used in addition to those already used

 

[Lexzie]

(Only) f:5 is not enough, after reading the settings with Dreamset (to edit another transponder) and writing it back to the stb I loose the AAC-PID's.

F.e.
After editing I save this:

089b:00eb0000:000b:0003:2:0
Radio Jura
p:Grupa RMF,c:140899,f:5

After the restart (init 4) I can listen to that station.

But after reading the settings and sending it back it is changed to:

089b:00eb0000:000b:0003:2:0
Radio Jura
p:Grupa RMF,f:5

 

[MCelliotG]

Use Dreamboxedit.