uk bbc channels normally on 28.2 on intelsat 907 27.5w ?

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I don't understand why those in spot two don't check the signal and transponders remaining active on Intelsat 901.
As you can see on the other topic (27.5W), the satellite is still operational but with less active transponders.
Here is what I found after a subliminal scan.
So the radio muxes are still working.
But as I said, a scan from the center of the spot would be more relevant than what we do from the outside.
Subliminal ?



Definitely aliens....
 
Subliminal ?

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Yes, the IQmonitor app can detect a weak signal below the reception threshold, which cannot be detected or locked with other dvb apps.
(The word limen comes from Latin and means "threshold," which refers to anything below the threshold of observation or awareness.

Here is an example even at 27.5W: the Crazyscan app found and locked only trp 11609 V,4165,2/5, while IQmonitor could find and lock the other transponders that could not be observed on the analyzer.

If I was in the center of the beam I might have found and locked the transponders even with crazyscan; but with the very weak signal, outside the spot, I found them only with this app, which was designed to find the weak signal and find its parameters.
 

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Yes, the IQmonitor app can detect a weak signal below the reception threshold, which cannot be detected or locked with other dvb apps.
(The word limen comes from Latin and means "threshold," which refers to anything below the threshold of observation or awareness.

Here is an example even at 27.5W: the Crazyscan app found and locked only trp 11609 V,4165,2/5, while IQmonitor could find and lock the other transponders that could not be observed on the analyzer.

If I was in the center of the beam I might have found and locked the transponders even with crazyscan; but with the very weak signal, outside the spot, I found them only with this app, which was designed to find the weak signal and find its parameters.
I refer you to the previous page of speculation, plus the need to tie up accounts of certain UK enterprises before the end of the 5th April.

Otherwise it is aliens.
 
Does anyone have any insights in regard to fringe reception of Telstar 15w Euro Spot 1? Specifically here in the Canaries (29N 13.5W) - we have a number of old 2.4m dishes sitting around from the old Astra 2 chasing days and I wondered if it was worth getting the PlusGas out?
 
Does anyone have any insights in regard to fringe reception of Telstar 15w Euro Spot 1? Specifically here in the Canaries (29N 13.5W) - we have a number of old 2.4m dishes sitting around from the old Astra 2 chasing days and I wondered if it was worth getting the PlusGas out?
The satback service? - its on a North Sea beam with a steep cut off. Id say you are pretty unlikely to get it but give it a go - you never know & there can be unknown side lobes.
 
So it's finally gone then after 11 years use... No signal here on Spain-Portugal border. I don't think I'll bother chasing the Telstar signal unless someone better at it than me gets a result, I suspect they'll need a very big dish unless the very close-by frequency transponder on the European beam scuppers even that.
 
In my area, the BBC is gone, Intelsat 901 is still there at 27.5W! :)
It also left Simmin TV(?).
Hello Satesco.
Do you want to test reception on Telstar 12 Vantage ?
11043 V 44103 QPSK 9/10 DVB S2
 
I can confirm BBC SATBACK has now been removed from Intelsat 901 27.5W. There are still other signals present at 27.5W but not the BBC signal. Good luck with your search for 15W/
 
Hello Satesco.
Do you want to test reception on Telstar 12 Vantage ?
11043 V 44103 QPSK 9/10 DVB S2
I tried from the first moment when 11043 V was activated, unsuccessfully and hopelessly, after analyzing the spot (north) where it was placed.
Unfortunately, other continental enthusiasts with larger antennas also failed to get a signal.
Because of this, joking a bit, I thought England was/is insular not only on land but also in the "sky." :)
Taking the thought further, I would say that it is what happens with our passion that happens in our lives that geography also determines what we can hope for from our area.
I don't know what will happen to 27.5W after Intelsat 901 is decommissioned, but I have been linked to this CMT position since the analog days and BBC Satback since it was activated.
I'll stop here with my thoughts so I don't get...nostalgic.
Regards
 
The satback service? - its on a North Sea beam with a steep cut off. Id say you are pretty unlikely to get it but give it a go - you never know & there can be unknown side lobes.
Thanks analoguesat. I think I will go and do a survey to see what condition the 2.4M dish is near me is. Telesat’s own brochure seems to give a glimmer of hope as it shows 50db down at the tip of Portugal on “North Sea”, so I guess the signal gradient from there will be key. I got mislead by the KoS chart which shows “Euro Spot 1”, which does not appear in Telesat’s info - it is probably the ”Med West” beam which cuts north of Portugal. Flysat’s “North Sea” only shows the 56db footprint which gives a bleaker outlook.
 
I tried from the first moment when 11043 V was activated, unsuccessfully and hopelessly, after analyzing the spot (north) where it was placed.
Unfortunately, other continental enthusiasts with larger antennas also failed to get a signal.
Because of this, joking a bit, I thought England was/is insular not only on land but also in the "sky." :)
Taking the thought further, I would say that it is what happens with our passion that happens in our lives that geography also determines what we can hope for from our area.
I don't know what will happen to 27.5W after Intelsat 901 is decommissioned, but I have been linked to this CMT position since the analog days and BBC Satback since it was activated.
I'll stop here with my thoughts so I don't get...nostalgic.
Regards
Well there's still IPTV to address this 'insular' madness..
Personally I'm still watching all BBC and ITV channels right now, if they want a war against Spain and continental Europe new solutions can always be found.
 
Is the new 15West feed receivable in north / north west spain?
 
No sun here but fresh snow! Got the signal ok after swinging my 80cm dish. Now struggling with the files.
 
I tried from the first moment when 11043 V was activated, unsuccessfully and hopelessly, after analyzing the spot (north) where it was placed.
Unfortunately, other continental enthusiasts with larger antennas also failed to get a signal.
Because of this, joking a bit, I thought England was/is insular not only on land but also in the "sky." :)
Taking the thought further, I would say that it is what happens with our passion that happens in our lives that geography also determines what we can hope for from our area.
I don't know what will happen to 27.5W after Intelsat 901 is decommissioned, but I have been linked to this CMT position since the analog days and BBC Satback since it was activated.
I'll stop here with my thoughts so I don't get...nostalgic.
Regards
I know where there is a reasonably priced 6m Ku compatible VSAT antenna.
 
No doubt in the not too distant future the same conversation will be had by UK residents trying to squeeze the last drop out of Freesat in their own region before the big satellite shutdown. No doubt at that stage IPTV and DVBT will rule the waves. No more sneak peaking BBC outside of the jurisdiction without the ability to circumvent geo-blocking. Just watch your VPN man jacking up his prices.

I imagine satellite dish recycling/repurposing will become a boom industry then. Might be an interesting post to see the best ideas put forward for all the old satellite dishes. Reckon they’d make a great paella pan with a little bit of work
 
For those struggling to receive BBC in sunnier climes, ask yourself the question. Would you trade in all that beautiful sunshine for a glimpse of the BBC on satellite. Well would you ???
Your question implies an off-topic answer. And I wouldn't want to pedal in that direction.
But in short, I would say that this is not my dilemma (at least), but the fact that from an enthusiast's point of view, the positions on the arc that were interesting in the past become "anodyne," i.e., only with Data, without feeds and programs that motivated many amateurs to become enthusiasts.
How interesting was the Intelsat 905 when you could find many feeds, mostly FTA. I'm just giving this example.

Now that you don't need an antenna to watch many cable programs and that the number of satellites has increased in the same proportion as the number of transponders carrying TV programs has decreased, many people are demotivated to invest more time, money, etc., in a hobby that they used to think could catch others.
That time has passed, and for some time now, we have witnessed a decrease in the number of enthusiasts in every country. And like any river that flows into the sea, so do these enthusiasts who end up on a few niche forums, such as this one, where we hear the occasional swan song.
But that's another discussion.
 
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Thanks analoguesat. I think I will go and do a survey to see what condition the 2.4M dish is near me is. Telesat’s own brochure seems to give a glimmer of hope as it shows 50db down at the tip of Portugal on “North Sea”, so I guess the signal gradient from there will be key. I got mislead by the KoS chart which shows “Euro Spot 1”, which does not appear in Telesat’s info - it is probably the ”Med West” beam which cuts north of Portugal. Flysat’s “North Sea” only shows the 56db footprint which gives a bleaker outlook.
Any luck in Portugal??
 
la porzione di banda che va da 10900 a 11200 circa è occupata da 2 tp con una banda di 95 MHz irradiati dallo spot di mare centrale, di conseguenza lo spot di mare nord è coperto da questo spot questo è quello che vedo dall'itlia del nord
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the portion of the band that goes from 10900 to approximately 11200 is occupied by 2 tp with a bandwidth of 95 MHz radiated from the central sea spot, consequently the north sea spot is covered by this spot this is what I see from north Italy
 
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