RAI DAB+ feed from 5 West

satesco said:
Here they are:12564 V,35300,2/3,8PSK,PLS-Root 16416-Mis 1,3,5,11
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For all E2 users here is the data for manual update of lamedb.

0dde0000:00fa:00c8 s 12564000:35300000:1:2:-50:2:0:1:2:0:2:11:131070:1 /

0001:0dde0000:00fa:00c8:2:0 Rai DAB p:Rai DAB,c:1503e8,f:05

The current lineup of that DAB RAI MUX
Ensemble: DAB+ RAI (0x5001)
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# Programme Label Serv.Id. P/S SubCh Capac.Units Prot. Bitrate Mode
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1: Rai R Classica (0x5205) Prm 7 78 (450-527) eep-3a 104 Kb/s DAB+
2: Rai Radio1 Sport (0x520f) Prm 8 48 (528-575) eep-3a 64 Kb/s DAB+
3: Rai R Techete' (0x52f1) Prm 10 66 (576-641) eep-3a 88 Kb/s DAB+
4: RaiR Live Napoli (0x52f2) Prm 11 78 (642-719) eep-3a 104 Kb/s DAB+
5: Rai Radio Kids (0x52f3) Prm 12 66 (720-785) eep-3a 88 Kb/s DAB+
6: No Name Radio (0x520a) Prm 13 78 (786-863) eep-3a 104 Kb/s DAB+
7: Rai Radio1 (0x5201) Prm 1 84 ( 0- 83) eep-3a 112 Kb/s DAB+
8: Rai Radio2 (0x5202) Prm 2 84 ( 84-167) eep-3a 112 Kb/s DAB+
9: Rai Radio3 (0x5203) Prm 3 84 (168-251) eep-3a 112 Kb/s DAB+
10: Rai GrParlamento (0x5206) Prm 4 42 (252-293) eep-3a 56 Kb/s DAB+
11: Rai Isoradio (0x5209) Prm 5 78 (294-371) eep-3a 104 Kb/s DAB+
12: RaiTuttaItaliana (0x5207) Prm 6 78 (372-449) eep-3a 104 Kb/s DAB+
 
I tested again DAB DR Deutschland and Antenne DE at 23.5E on 12641 V,1500,2/3,8PSK.
As you know, only with 6903x/6909x cards you can work and listen to these two DABs.
Fortunately, both DAB mis 1 & 2 work with 6909x having the following command line:

- tune-s2 12641 V 1500 -system DVB-S2 -modulation 8PSK -adapter 6 -lnb UNIVERSAL
- dvbsnoop -adapter 6 -s ts -tsraw -b | ./bbframe-tools/pts2bbf | bbfedi2eti -mis 1 | dablin_gtk
- dvbsnoop -adapter 6 -s ts -tsraw -b | ./bbframe-tools/pts2bbf | bbfedi2eti -mis 2 | dablin_gtk

The test with neumoDVB(#627) was done some time ago and is still valid now.

DR Deutschland mis 1
0 : KLASSIK RADIO (0xd75b) Pri subch= 6 start=192 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
1 : SUNSHINE LIVE (0x15dc) Pri subch=21 start=330 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
2 : radio Horeb (0xd01c) Pri subch= 5 start=156 CUs= 36 PL=eep-3a bitrate=48 DAB+
3 : ERF Plus (0x1a64) Pri subch= 2 start= 0 CUs= 48 PL=eep-3a bitrate=64 DAB+
4 : Dlf (0xd210) Pri subch=10 start=480 CUs=104 PL=eep-2a bitrate=104 DAB+
5 : Dlf Kultur (0xd220) Pri subch=11 start=584 CUs=112 PL=eep-2a bitrate=112 DAB+
6 : Dlf Nova (0xd230) Pri subch=12 start=696 CUs=104 PL=eep-2a bitrate=104 DAB+
7 : DRadio DokDeb (0xd240) Pri subch=13 start=800 CUs= 36 PL=eep-3a bitrate=48 DAB+
8 : Schwarzwaldradio (0x100d) Pri subch= 7 start=246 CUs= 42 PL=eep-2b bitrate=64 DAB+
9 : ENERGY (0x1a45) Pri subch= 4 start=102 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
10 : SCHLAGERPARADIES (0x10c3) Pri subch=20 start=288 CUs= 42 PL=eep-2b bitrate=64 DAB+
11 : Absolut relax (0x17fa) Pri subch= 3 start= 48 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
12 : RADIO BOB! (0x15dd) Pri subch=22 start=384 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+

Antenne DE mis 2
0 : Brillux Radio (0x1299) Pri subch=15 start=648 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
1 : Absolut GERMANY (0x121c) Pri subch=18 start=810 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
2 : AIDAradio (0x1259) Pri subch=17 start=756 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
3 : 90s90s (0x12e9) Pri subch=16 start=702 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
4 : Beats Radio (0x1258) Pri subch=14 start=594 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
5 : DRIVERS RADIO (0x12c8) Pri subch=11 start=432 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
6 : NOSTALGIE (0x122a) Pri subch=13 start=540 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
7 : 80s80s (0x1057) Pri subch=12 start=486 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
8 : TOGGO Radio (0x1298) Pri subch= 5 start=162 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
9 : RTL RADIO (0x1229) Pri subch= 4 start=108 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
10 : OLDIE ANTENNE (0x121d) Pri subch= 2 start= 54 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
11 : ROCK ANTENNE (0x121b) Pri subch= 1 start= 0 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
12 : Absolut OLDIE (0x121a) Pri subch=10 start=378 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
13 : Absolut BELLA (0x1219) Pri subch= 9 start=324 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
14 : Absolut HOT (0xdc1a) Pri subch= 7 start=216 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
15 : Absolut TOP (0x1218) Pri subch= 8 start=270 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
[06/16/24 13:28:59] EDI: Unknown TAG Fptt

It would be good if there were a section dedicated to DABs only. So many topics are scattered around that you don't know where to look. That is why I am posting on this thread RAI DAB+ 5 West
 

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satesco said:
I tested again DAB DR Deutschland and Antenne DE at 23.5E on 12641 V,1500,2/3,8PSK.
As you know, only with 6903x/6909x cards you can work and listen to these two DABs.
Fortunately, both DAB mis 1 & 2 work with 6909x having the following command line:

- tune-s2 12641 V 1500 -system DVB-S2 -modulation 8PSK -adapter 6 -lnb UNIVERSAL
- dvbsnoop -adapter 6 -s ts -tsraw -b | ./bbframe-tools/pts2bbf | bbfedi2eti -mis 1 | dablin_gtk
- dvbsnoop -adapter 6 -s ts -tsraw -b | ./bbframe-tools/pts2bbf | bbfedi2eti -mis 2 | dablin_gtk

The test with neumoDVB(#627) was done some time ago and is still valid now.

DR Deutschland mis 1
0 : KLASSIK RADIO (0xd75b) Pri subch= 6 start=192 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
1 : SUNSHINE LIVE (0x15dc) Pri subch=21 start=330 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
2 : radio Horeb (0xd01c) Pri subch= 5 start=156 CUs= 36 PL=eep-3a bitrate=48 DAB+
3 : ERF Plus (0x1a64) Pri subch= 2 start= 0 CUs= 48 PL=eep-3a bitrate=64 DAB+
4 : Dlf (0xd210) Pri subch=10 start=480 CUs=104 PL=eep-2a bitrate=104 DAB+
5 : Dlf Kultur (0xd220) Pri subch=11 start=584 CUs=112 PL=eep-2a bitrate=112 DAB+
6 : Dlf Nova (0xd230) Pri subch=12 start=696 CUs=104 PL=eep-2a bitrate=104 DAB+
7 : DRadio DokDeb (0xd240) Pri subch=13 start=800 CUs= 36 PL=eep-3a bitrate=48 DAB+
8 : Schwarzwaldradio (0x100d) Pri subch= 7 start=246 CUs= 42 PL=eep-2b bitrate=64 DAB+
9 : ENERGY (0x1a45) Pri subch= 4 start=102 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
10 : SCHLAGERPARADIES (0x10c3) Pri subch=20 start=288 CUs= 42 PL=eep-2b bitrate=64 DAB+
11 : Absolut relax (0x17fa) Pri subch= 3 start= 48 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
12 : RADIO BOB! (0x15dd) Pri subch=22 start=384 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+

Antenne DE mis 2
0 : Brillux Radio (0x1299) Pri subch=15 start=648 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
1 : Absolut GERMANY (0x121c) Pri subch=18 start=810 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
2 : AIDAradio (0x1259) Pri subch=17 start=756 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
3 : 90s90s (0x12e9) Pri subch=16 start=702 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
4 : Beats Radio (0x1258) Pri subch=14 start=594 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
5 : DRIVERS RADIO (0x12c8) Pri subch=11 start=432 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
6 : NOSTALGIE (0x122a) Pri subch=13 start=540 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
7 : 80s80s (0x1057) Pri subch=12 start=486 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
8 : TOGGO Radio (0x1298) Pri subch= 5 start=162 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
9 : RTL RADIO (0x1229) Pri subch= 4 start=108 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
10 : OLDIE ANTENNE (0x121d) Pri subch= 2 start= 54 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
11 : ROCK ANTENNE (0x121b) Pri subch= 1 start= 0 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
12 : Absolut OLDIE (0x121a) Pri subch=10 start=378 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
13 : Absolut BELLA (0x1219) Pri subch= 9 start=324 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
14 : Absolut HOT (0xdc1a) Pri subch= 7 start=216 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
15 : Absolut TOP (0x1218) Pri subch= 8 start=270 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
[06/16/24 13:28:59] EDI: Unknown TAG Fptt

It would be good if there were a section dedicated to DABs only. So many topics are scattered around that you don't know where to look. That is why I am posting on this thread RAI DAB+ 5 West
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Thank you ! Fantastic work.
 
Satesco, if these are MIS 1 & 2, what are the settings needed? Is it Root, Combo or Gold? What is the PLS code?
 
T2-Mi (modulator interface) does not work with PLS code but with PLP (Physical Layer Pipe). The device must have dedicated software implemented for such a stream. It must be possible to enter Pids(4096&4097) in its menu.
I have DM920 UHD, and because it doesn't have this feature, it can't decode such a format.
To decode such streams in Windows, you need the latest version of TSReader or some players that know this, like AltDVB and TSDuck on Linux.
 

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OK, so it's T2-MI, not MIS.
Can you provide PLP and PIDs for 12.641 V (23.5E), please?
 
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Satfaca said:
OK, so it's T2-MI, not MIS.
Can you provide PLP and PIDs for 12.641 V (23.5E), please?
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I think you are referring to two different transponders, namely, 12285 V,30000,2/3,8PSK is for the T2-MI stream, and 12641 H,1500 is for the DAB+ stream.
I have posted pictures of how to set up AltDVB for the player to search for and save the T2_Mi stream if you want to use it.
To view these T2-MI streams, you must have the TSReader version (from 2.55 onwards).
Below are some pictures of how to set up these apps.

To listen to DAB+ De from 12641 V, a 6903x or 6909x card must be installed on a Linux distribution. You don't need PID or anything else—that's another discussion.
But this requires a different Linux approach than what you do under Windows to enjoy these DABs on satellite.
 

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Satfaca said:
OK, so it's T2-MI, not MIS.
Can you provide PLP and PIDs for 12.641 V (23.5E), please?
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for e2
Code: 
<transponder frequency="12641000" symbol_rate="1500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" is_id="1"/><!-- DAB DR -->
<transponder frequency="12641000" symbol_rate="1500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" is_id="2"/><!-- DAB A -->
and manual update lamedb+dabstreamer
for TBS
as written by satesco
 
satesco said:
I think you are referring to two different transponders, namely, 12285 V,30000,2/3,8PSK is for the T2-MI stream, and 12641 H,1500 is for the DAB+ stream.
I have posted pictures of how to set up AltDVB for the player to search for and save the T2_Mi stream if you want to use it.
To view these T2-MI streams, you must have the TSReader version (from 2.55 onwards).
Below are some pictures of how to set up these apps.

To listen to DAB+ De from 12641 V, a 6903x or 6909x card must be installed on a Linux distribution. You don't need PID or anything else—that's another discussion.
But this requires a different Linux approach than what you do under Windows to enjoy these DABs on satellite.
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I don't know why you've mentioned 12285 V here at all, your previous post (and the whole thread) is about DAB+ on 12.641 V.
I understand they are MIS 1 & MIS 2 so logicaly there would be PLS needed.

I am not trying to "aproach Linux" as my PC knowledge is just above zero but would like to do this on E2 as everything else.
 
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Not all MIS are automatically also with PLS
 
OK, so these are simply MIS 1 & MIS 2?
Can anyone of you please make a screenshot of the TBS lock with either EBSPro or CrazyScan?
Tnx
 
Got it.

dab.png
 
23,5E Astra 12168V Bundesmux,,,Enigma 2 Telnet ok,and Extra parameters,and Lamedb?????Please help.

fedi2eti 4122 239.128.72.10 50010 2> /dev/null | ni2out
--list
Antenne DE (0x11f7)
0 : Brillux Radio (0x1299) Pri subch=15 start=648 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
1 : Absolut GERMANY (0x121c) Pri subch=18 start=810 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
2 : AIDAradio (0x1259) Pri subch=17 start=756 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
3 : 90s90s (0x12e9) Pri subch=16 start=702 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
4 : Beats Radio (0x1258) Pri subch=14 start=594 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
5 : BALLERMANN RADIO (0x12c8) Pri subch=11 start=432 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
6 : NOSTALGIE (0x122a) Pri subch=13 start=540 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
7 : 80s80s (0x1057) Pri subch=12 start=486 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
8 : TOGGO Radio (0x1298) Pri subch= 5 start=162 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
9 : RTL RADIO (0x1229) Pri subch= 4 start=108 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
10 : OLDIE ANTENNE (0x121d) Pri subch= 2 start= 54 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
11 : ROCK ANTENNE (0x121b) Pri subch= 1 start= 0 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
12 : Absolut OLDIE (0x121a) Pri subch=10 start=378 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
13 : Absolut BELLA (0x1219) Pri subch= 9 start=324 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
14 : Absolut HOT (0xdc1a) Pri subch= 7 start=216 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
15 : Absolut TOP (0x1218) Pri subch= 8 start=270 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+


fedi2eti 4121 239.128.43.43 50043 | ni2out --list
using pid 4121 ip 239.128.43.43 port 50043
[07/01/24 23:34:23] Initialise next pseq to 44791
[07/01/24 23:34:23] EDI-AF: Packet sequence error
DR Deutschland (0x10bc)
0 : KLASSIK RADIO (0xd75b) Pri subch= 6 start=192 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
1 : SUNSHINE LIVE (0x15dc) Pri subch=21 start=330 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
2 : radio horeb (0xd01c) Pri subch= 5 start=156 CUs= 36 PL=eep-3a bitrate=48 DAB+
3 : ERF Plus (0x1a64) Pri subch= 2 start= 0 CUs= 48 PL=eep-3a bitrate=64 DAB+
4 : Dlf (0xd210) Pri subch=10 start=480 CUs=104 PL=eep-2a bitrate=104 DAB+
5 : Dlf Kultur (0xd220) Pri subch=11 start=584 CUs=112 PL=eep-2a bitrate=112 DAB+
6 : Dlf Nova (0xd230) Pri subch=12 start=696 CUs=104 PL=eep-2a bitrate=104 DAB+
7 : DRadio DokDeb (0xd240) Pri subch=13 start=800 CUs= 36 PL=eep-3a bitrate=48 DAB+
8 : Schwarzwaldradio (0x100d) Pri subch= 7 start=246 CUs= 42 PL=eep-2b bitrate=64 DAB+
9 : ENERGY (0x1a45) Pri subch= 4 start=102 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
10 : SCHLAGERPARADIES (0x10c3) Pri subch=20 start=288 CUs= 42 PL=eep-2b bitrate=64 DAB+
11 : Absolut relax (0x17fa) Pri subch= 3 start= 48 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
12 : RADIO BOB! (0x15dd) Pri subch=22 start=384 CUs= 54 PL=eep-3a bitrate=72 DAB+
 
Enigma 2 Telnet:

wget http://box ip adress:8001/1:0:2:1019:c98:3:eb0000:0:0:0: -q -O- | fedi2eti 4121 239.128.43.43 50043 | ni2out --list Bumux1
wget http://box ip adress:8001/1:0:2:101a:c98:3:eb0000:0:0:0: -q -O- | fedi2eti 4122 239.128.72.10 50010 | ni2out --list Bumux2
 
wget ... list
is only for information about the content of the stream,
if you want to listen to it you have to create a userbouquet

RAI DAB+ feed from 5 West

Here it is :Y Bye
www.satellites.co.uk www.satellites.co.uk

RAI DAB+ feed from 5 West

Thank you very much for your info, Evans.:Y Can anyone extract all the needed files and attach here in a zip, please? No installation files, please, just ETI + others needed for DAB.
www.satellites.co.uk www.satellites.co.uk
 
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