RAI DAB+ feed from 5 West

cirio70 · Oct 21, 2024

i checked my lamedb
in Transponder Section:

Code:

0dde0000:00fa:00c8
    s 12564000:35300000:1:2:-50:2:0:1:2:0:2:11:131070:1
/

in services section:

Code:

0001:0dde0000:00fa:00c8:1:0
Rai Dab
p:Rai,c:1503e8,f:5

so the command:

Code:

root@sf8008:~# wget http://0.0.0.0:8001/1:0:1:1:FA:C8:DDE0000:0:0:0: -q -O- | ts2na -p 1000 -s 0 | na2ni | ni2out --list
WARN:  Forward error correction (FEC) disabled (NOT COMPILED)
INFO:  Using pid: 0x03e8 (1000)
INFO:  E1 Sync found at bit: 448, inverted: no
DEBUG: seek: B:56, b:0
DEBUG: pre-readed output 14 frames (7 bytes left):
DEBUG: MULTIFRAME FILLING: 206
INFO:  ETI Sync found at pos: 7
INFO:  ETI Multiframe sync found at blockId: 18
.
Ensemble: DAB+ RAI         (0x5001)
****************************************************************************
 #  Programme Label   Serv.Id.  P/S SubCh Capac.Units   Prot.   Bitrate Mode
****************************************************************************
 1: Rai Radio1        (0x5201)  Prm   1   84 (  0- 83)  eep-3a 112 Kb/s DAB+
 2: Rai Radio2        (0x5202)  Prm   2   84 ( 84-167)  eep-3a 112 Kb/s DAB+
 3: Rai Radio3        (0x5203)  Prm   3   84 (168-251)  eep-3a 112 Kb/s DAB+
 4: Rai GrParlamento  (0x5206)  Prm   4   42 (252-293)  eep-3a  56 Kb/s DAB+
 5: Rai Isoradio      (0x5209)  Prm   5   78 (294-371)  eep-3a 104 Kb/s DAB+
 6: RaiTuttaItaliana  (0x5207)  Prm   6   78 (372-449)  eep-3a 104 Kb/s DAB+
 7: Rai R Classica    (0x5205)  Prm   7   78 (450-527)  eep-3a 104 Kb/s DAB+
 8: Rai Radio1 Sport  (0x520f)  Prm   8   48 (528-575)  eep-3a  64 Kb/s DAB+
 9: Rai R Techete'    (0x52f1)  Prm  10   66 (576-641)  eep-3a  88 Kb/s DAB+
10: RaiR Live Napoli  (0x52f2)  Prm  11   78 (642-719)  eep-3a 104 Kb/s DAB+
11: Rai Radio Kids    (0x52f3)  Prm  12   66 (720-785)  eep-3a  88 Kb/s DAB+
12: No Name Radio     (0x520a)  Prm  13   78 (786-863)  eep-3a 104 Kb/s DAB+
Free CUs on this multiplex =   0

gives me the desired result.

andimik · Oct 22, 2024

Can you tell me about the last line? Where do you have this version of ni2out from?

Because I am the maintainer of the eti-tools on GitHub, but there is no calculation of the free CUs.

cirio70 · Oct 22, 2024

andimik said:
Can you tell me about the last line? Where do you have this version of ni2out from?

Because I am the maintainer of the eti-tools on GitHub, but there is no calculation of the free CUs.

I found it in a satdream repository a few years ago. I found it googlin the terms eti-tools octagon
If you're interested in i can send you the ipk file.

7mdish · Oct 22, 2024

cirio70 said:

i checked my lamedb
in Transponder Section:

Code:

0dde0000:00fa:00c8
    s 12564000:35300000:1:2:-50:2:0:1:2:0:2:11:131070:1
/

in services section:

Code:

0001:0dde0000:00fa:00c8:1:0
Rai Dab
p:Rai,c:1503e8,f:5

so the command:

Code:

root@sf8008:~# wget http://0.0.0.0:8001/1:0:1:1:FA:C8:DDE0000:0:0:0: -q -O- | ts2na -p 1000 -s 0 | na2ni | ni2out --list
WARN:  Forward error correction (FEC) disabled (NOT COMPILED)
INFO:  Using pid: 0x03e8 (1000)
INFO:  E1 Sync found at bit: 448, inverted: no
DEBUG: seek: B:56, b:0
DEBUG: pre-readed output 14 frames (7 bytes left):
DEBUG: MULTIFRAME FILLING: 206
INFO:  ETI Sync found at pos: 7
INFO:  ETI Multiframe sync found at blockId: 18
.
Ensemble: DAB+ RAI         (0x5001)
****************************************************************************
 #  Programme Label   Serv.Id.  P/S SubCh Capac.Units   Prot.   Bitrate Mode
****************************************************************************
 1: Rai Radio1        (0x5201)  Prm   1   84 (  0- 83)  eep-3a 112 Kb/s DAB+
 2: Rai Radio2        (0x5202)  Prm   2   84 ( 84-167)  eep-3a 112 Kb/s DAB+
 3: Rai Radio3        (0x5203)  Prm   3   84 (168-251)  eep-3a 112 Kb/s DAB+
 4: Rai GrParlamento  (0x5206)  Prm   4   42 (252-293)  eep-3a  56 Kb/s DAB+
 5: Rai Isoradio      (0x5209)  Prm   5   78 (294-371)  eep-3a 104 Kb/s DAB+
 6: RaiTuttaItaliana  (0x5207)  Prm   6   78 (372-449)  eep-3a 104 Kb/s DAB+
 7: Rai R Classica    (0x5205)  Prm   7   78 (450-527)  eep-3a 104 Kb/s DAB+
 8: Rai Radio1 Sport  (0x520f)  Prm   8   48 (528-575)  eep-3a  64 Kb/s DAB+
 9: Rai R Techete'    (0x52f1)  Prm  10   66 (576-641)  eep-3a  88 Kb/s DAB+
10: RaiR Live Napoli  (0x52f2)  Prm  11   78 (642-719)  eep-3a 104 Kb/s DAB+
11: Rai Radio Kids    (0x52f3)  Prm  12   66 (720-785)  eep-3a  88 Kb/s DAB+
12: No Name Radio     (0x520a)  Prm  13   78 (786-863)  eep-3a 104 Kb/s DAB+
Free CUs on this multiplex =   0

gives me the desired result.

Finally got it!
Probably I played too much with my image.
Loaded a previous backup, copied your lines in my lamedb, rebooted, the station list appeared immediately.
Thank you so much!

7mdish · Oct 23, 2024

@cirio70, looking for the german radios on Astra at 19.2 East now, 11604V SR 2200.
As happened with RAI mux at 5 West, my decoder does not load the transponder.
Please have you the proper lines in your lamedb? Thanks.

7mdish · Oct 23, 2024

Found! For everyone interested:
Transponder

Code:
00c00000:0402:0001
s 11604000:2200000:1:3:192:2:0
/

Service

Code:
0001:00c00000:0402:0001:12:0:0
WDR
p:WDR,c:031fff,c:150bb8,f:8

satesco · Dec 10, 2024

Adam792 said:
Another DAB mux has appeared on satellite, via BFBS's transponder on 10°E (11221V). PID 701 in EDI format, carrying the new Salisbury "small-scale DAB" multiplex. BFBS is the operator so I guess their existing satellite capacity is the cheapest way for them to get it to the transmitter(s).

239.232.1.201:4000

DAB+ Salisbury now has UDP port 2028, and the PID is 701(as before).

andimik · Dec 10, 2024

Thanks, I will change the github.com page later.

satesco · Dec 10, 2024

In fact, the UDP port 2048 was already used in July 2023, after being changed from 4000.

andimik · Dec 11, 2024

Seems, 2028 was a typo, have checked that the screenshot uses 2048. Then there is no need to change the github.com page.

Port changed for Salisbury (10E) · piratfm/eti-tools@4d3e16b

see https://github.com/piratfm/eti-tools/issues/35?notification_referrer_id=MDE4Ok5vdGlmaWNhdGlvblRocmVhZDc4MjUxNjY5NDoyNDUxMDU1Ng%3D%3D#issuecomment-1487276854

github.com

Has been there since March 2023.

satesco · Dec 20, 2024

23.5E_Looks like 12641 V,1500,2/3,S2-DAB+ Radio Deutschland has stopped transmitting on this mux.
I didn't find it, although I have strong signal. I wish I am wrong.

Instead, the two streams BuMux (PID 4121 & 4122) on 12167 V,27500,3/4 remained active on this transponder.

jsda30 · Feb 7, 2025

satesco said:
23,5E Astra 12168V DAB Bundesmux restarted with the same parameters: Pid 4121 and Pid 4122.
The last one has more audio tracks.

It seems to be still in testing on 12168 V, as 12641 V,1500 2/3,8PSK is active as before.

hi everybody.... someone knows if they are now on astra 19.2 east... becauses astra b at 23.5 not working...

satesco · Feb 7, 2025

jsda30 said:
hi everybody.... someone knows if they are now on astra 19.2 east... becauses astra b at 23.5 not working...

The two DAB+ streams at 23.5E on 12168 V, DR Deutschland, and Antenne De, are there and can be listened to with the appropriate app on Linux.
I checked them now.

EnoSat · Feb 7, 2025

jsda30 said:
hi everybody.... someone knows if they are now on astra 19.2 east... becauses astra b at 23.5 not working...

11604V and 11606V

myGLX · Feb 10, 2025

Adam792 said:
...
You can even modulate it using a HackRF if you like, using odr-dabmod

Both of those replace ni2out --list in the command line.

What commands are used to trasmit the streams received from satellite to the odr modulator and re mux to broadcast with sdr board ?
Thank you!

rodscha · Feb 11, 2025

satesco said:
DAB+ Salisbury now has UDP port 2028, and the PID is 701(as before).

I got the BFBS DAB mux fine... on 11220 V 30000 but it seems to be on 11 east,rather than on 10 east. I get ortc on 10 east & I need to move 1°,east to get the BFBS mux...thereby" losing" ortc. Another satellite then?

satesco · Feb 11, 2025

rodscha said:
I got the BFBS DAB mux fine... on 11220 V 30000 but it seems to be on 11 east,rather than on 10 east. I get ortc on 10 east & I need to move 1°,east to get the BFBS mux...thereby" losing" ortc. Another satellite then?

You can find on this thread some DAB+ positions (23.0E,9,0E,5.0W, etc.)
You can also find such DAB streams on FlySat.

andimik · Feb 13, 2025

rodscha said:
I got the BFBS DAB mux fine... on 11220 V 30000 but it seems to be on 11 east,rather than on 10 east. I get ortc on 10 east & I need to move 1°,east to get the BFBS mux...thereby" losing" ortc. Another satellite then?

Check your dish. It's definitely 10E. To be more precise 10.04E

Real time satellite tracking for: EUTELSAT 10B

Track satellite(s) EUTELSAT 10B and see where are they located now. Check when there will be the next pass over your location

www.n2yo.com

rodscha · Feb 13, 2025

andimik said:
Check your dish. It's definitely 10E. To be more precise 10.04E

Real time satellite tracking for: EUTELSAT 10B

Track satellite(s) EUTELSAT 10B and see where are they located now. Check when there will be the next pass over your location

www.n2yo.com

Thank you...so it 's ortc which is on a slightly different sat... Comorsat maybe?

andimik · Feb 13, 2025

There are two different beams and frequency ranges.

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